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	<title>Comments on: Taxes, Rebates, and What to Do With Them</title>
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		<title>By: Ames</title>
		<link>http://acandidworld.com/2008/07/07/taxes-rebates-and-what-to-do-with-them/#comment-4223</link>
		<dc:creator>Ames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 02:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said!  Wish you&#039;d been here to make that point earlier, it sets it up very nicely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said!  Wish you&#8217;d been here to make that point earlier, it sets it up very nicely.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://acandidworld.com/2008/07/07/taxes-rebates-and-what-to-do-with-them/#comment-4222</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 02:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ames, assuming you refer to Collin&#039;s last sentence of his last post, it&#039;s the whole &quot;70% income tax being spent entirely on things I approve of is preferable to 7% income tax being spent on things I&#039;d still want eliminated if they were free&quot; mindset.

Anyway, why the fuss over legal pay?  I&#039;m pretty sure non-exempt jobs strongly outnumber exempt jobs in the U.S., and that&#039;s a pretty big case of apples &amp; oranges that makes me think that even if we assume, for the sake of argument, that the way law firms set their pay scales is representative of all salaried jobs in the U.S., it&#039;s still not going to be typical since most jobs are waged, not salaried.

Anyway, if you get your withholding set up right, the money that isn&#039;t yours never gets put in your possession to begin with.  Yeah, some people say withholding&#039;s bad because of that, but it&#039;s a good material aid to help you keep from counting your chickens before they&#039;ve hatched.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ames, assuming you refer to Collin&#8217;s last sentence of his last post, it&#8217;s the whole &#8220;70% income tax being spent entirely on things I approve of is preferable to 7% income tax being spent on things I&#8217;d still want eliminated if they were free&#8221; mindset.</p>
<p>Anyway, why the fuss over legal pay?  I&#8217;m pretty sure non-exempt jobs strongly outnumber exempt jobs in the U.S., and that&#8217;s a pretty big case of apples &amp; oranges that makes me think that even if we assume, for the sake of argument, that the way law firms set their pay scales is representative of all salaried jobs in the U.S., it&#8217;s still not going to be typical since most jobs are waged, not salaried.</p>
<p>Anyway, if you get your withholding set up right, the money that isn&#8217;t yours never gets put in your possession to begin with.  Yeah, some people say withholding&#8217;s bad because of that, but it&#8217;s a good material aid to help you keep from counting your chickens before they&#8217;ve hatched.</p>
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		<title>By: Ames</title>
		<link>http://acandidworld.com/2008/07/07/taxes-rebates-and-what-to-do-with-them/#comment-4221</link>
		<dc:creator>Ames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My logic was less about tax hikes than about not viscerally reacting to the existence of taxes, and demanding breaks because you think its your money. I admit that that logic applies with less force to tax hikes, since management will often not match. As for the last sentence.... Huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My logic was less about tax hikes than about not viscerally reacting to the existence of taxes, and demanding breaks because you think its your money. I admit that that logic applies with less force to tax hikes, since management will often not match. As for the last sentence&#8230;. Huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Collin</title>
		<link>http://acandidworld.com/2008/07/07/taxes-rebates-and-what-to-do-with-them/#comment-4220</link>
		<dc:creator>Collin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry we got into the whole debate about how firms decide compensation.  It was, in the end, immaterial to my point; regardless of what calculus gets put into legal pay, salaries wouldn&#039;t rise to compensate for a tax hike, at least not all that promptly.  During that time, a lawyer at a firm  would take home less money.

If he can reconcile himself with that situation on the grounds that it makes him politically virtuous, then it&#039;s no problem for him.  If he has difficulty accepting that the government is taking more of his money than before and using it on projects he opposes, I&#039;d expect him to be rather upset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry we got into the whole debate about how firms decide compensation.  It was, in the end, immaterial to my point; regardless of what calculus gets put into legal pay, salaries wouldn&#8217;t rise to compensate for a tax hike, at least not all that promptly.  During that time, a lawyer at a firm  would take home less money.</p>
<p>If he can reconcile himself with that situation on the grounds that it makes him politically virtuous, then it&#8217;s no problem for him.  If he has difficulty accepting that the government is taking more of his money than before and using it on projects he opposes, I&#8217;d expect him to be rather upset.</p>
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		<title>By: Collin</title>
		<link>http://acandidworld.com/2008/07/07/taxes-rebates-and-what-to-do-with-them/#comment-4219</link>
		<dc:creator>Collin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ames, first, I don&#039;t question and didn&#039;t question that married people with children &quot;have a different perspective.&quot;

Also, I understand that there are people who are dead-set on major cities.

My point was merely that there is &quot;a solid portion of this country’s work force that wants to live in places like Charlotte, Denver, Salt Lake City, and Tampa and doesn’t require any monetary incentive to do so.&quot;

These people may not be at NYU or Harvard in numbers, but at least a few of them are still &quot;well educated attorneys.&quot;  Atlanta was merely an example of a case where firms outside New York have decided they can get satisfactory talent without hiking pay to lure away kids who preferred New York.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ames, first, I don&#8217;t question and didn&#8217;t question that married people with children &#8220;have a different perspective.&#8221;</p>
<p>Also, I understand that there are people who are dead-set on major cities.</p>
<p>My point was merely that there is &#8220;a solid portion of this country’s work force that wants to live in places like Charlotte, Denver, Salt Lake City, and Tampa and doesn’t require any monetary incentive to do so.&#8221;</p>
<p>These people may not be at NYU or Harvard in numbers, but at least a few of them are still &#8220;well educated attorneys.&#8221;  Atlanta was merely an example of a case where firms outside New York have decided they can get satisfactory talent without hiking pay to lure away kids who preferred New York.</p>
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		<title>By: Ames</title>
		<link>http://acandidworld.com/2008/07/07/taxes-rebates-and-what-to-do-with-them/#comment-4218</link>
		<dc:creator>Ames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woah. I think people read in insults where there were none. Collin, people with families probably do have a different perspective, and I don&#039;t know about your law school, but the people here (and at harvard I hear) who aren&#039;t interested only in the biggest cities, at least to start, are few and far between.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woah. I think people read in insults where there were none. Collin, people with families probably do have a different perspective, and I don&#8217;t know about your law school, but the people here (and at harvard I hear) who aren&#8217;t interested only in the biggest cities, at least to start, are few and far between.</p>
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		<title>By: didionsmommy</title>
		<link>http://acandidworld.com/2008/07/07/taxes-rebates-and-what-to-do-with-them/#comment-4217</link>
		<dc:creator>didionsmommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, i didn&#039;t mean to sound presumptuous. quite frankly, it perfectly describes how my views have changed over time regarding wages and personal finances.

that i didn&#039;t make that part clear is my error.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, i didn&#8217;t mean to sound presumptuous. quite frankly, it perfectly describes how my views have changed over time regarding wages and personal finances.</p>
<p>that i didn&#8217;t make that part clear is my error.</p>
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		<title>By: didionsmommy</title>
		<link>http://acandidworld.com/2008/07/07/taxes-rebates-and-what-to-do-with-them/#comment-4216</link>
		<dc:creator>didionsmommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i should be more precise ... single biggest STATE employer in the nation ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i should be more precise &#8230; single biggest STATE employer in the nation &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Collin</title>
		<link>http://acandidworld.com/2008/07/07/taxes-rebates-and-what-to-do-with-them/#comment-4215</link>
		<dc:creator>Collin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;i think these things become more clear to a person once they are in the mix … married, with children, budgeting every month, saving for retirement, paying a mortgage … even with an advanced degree and an established career …&quot;

I really try not to be personal in these posts, but this makes it awfully hard.  I&#039;ll just say this paragraph offends me, that it&#039;s presumptuous and personally condescending (toward someone you do not know) and that I&#039;d like you to apologize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;i think these things become more clear to a person once they are in the mix … married, with children, budgeting every month, saving for retirement, paying a mortgage … even with an advanced degree and an established career …&#8221;</p>
<p>I really try not to be personal in these posts, but this makes it awfully hard.  I&#8217;ll just say this paragraph offends me, that it&#8217;s presumptuous and personally condescending (toward someone you do not know) and that I&#8217;d like you to apologize.</p>
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		<title>By: didionsmommy</title>
		<link>http://acandidworld.com/2008/07/07/taxes-rebates-and-what-to-do-with-them/#comment-4214</link>
		<dc:creator>didionsmommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>o.k., collin. you win.

i just happen to have a husband working for a huge, multinational, and i happen to have spent five years of my life working for the single biggest public employer in the nation. i also happen to have studied income inequities and changes in grad school.

i suppose, though, i do not have my finger on the pulse of the legal market in georgia.

and i&#039;ll be careful to never use the word &quot;excitement&quot; again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>o.k., collin. you win.</p>
<p>i just happen to have a husband working for a huge, multinational, and i happen to have spent five years of my life working for the single biggest public employer in the nation. i also happen to have studied income inequities and changes in grad school.</p>
<p>i suppose, though, i do not have my finger on the pulse of the legal market in georgia.</p>
<p>and i&#8217;ll be careful to never use the word &#8220;excitement&#8221; again.</p>
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