Comments on: Sarah Palin: False Promise in the First Female Republican VP Nomination http://acandidworld.com/2008/08/29/sarah-palin-false-promise-in-the-first-female-vp-nomination/ Democracy in America Sun, 27 May 2012 05:50:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Ames http://acandidworld.com/2008/08/29/sarah-palin-false-promise-in-the-first-female-vp-nomination/#comment-5720 Sun, 21 Sep 2008 04:21:00 +0000 http://www.acandidworld.net/?p=1770#comment-5720 Yeah, I realized my failure after I posted it. D’oh.

]]> By: Human http://acandidworld.com/2008/08/29/sarah-palin-false-promise-in-the-first-female-vp-nomination/#comment-5719 Sun, 21 Sep 2008 04:12:58 +0000 http://www.acandidworld.net/?p=1770#comment-5719 Er, Ames, one quibble – with the title of this post.

“the First Female VP Nomination” was Geraldine Ferraro in 1984.

]]> By: Ames http://acandidworld.com/2008/08/29/sarah-palin-false-promise-in-the-first-female-vp-nomination/#comment-5717 Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:15:47 +0000 http://www.acandidworld.net/?p=1770#comment-5717 PC, it’s not that I think all women are genetically programmer to be pro choice; it’s that i’m surprised to hear democrats voting for a rabidly conservative woman just because of her biology. Luckily it seems to be a fairly isolated phenomenon; polling suggests women think less of her than men, and it’s only falling.

]]> By: Progressive Conservative http://acandidworld.com/2008/08/29/sarah-palin-false-promise-in-the-first-female-vp-nomination/#comment-5716 Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:40:49 +0000 http://www.acandidworld.net/?p=1770#comment-5716 I just legitimately want to know how Hillary women reconcile themselves to Palin’s theocratic background, one totally opposed to everything Hillary stands for. For the life of me I can’t understand it.

Ames, you act as though Hillary’s entire career is based on the right to terminate a pregnancy. It’s not. As much as I disagree with her, she’s not that one-dimensional. The reason why Obama is now losing women to Palin at a decent clip is because you all just don’t get it. You think all women care about is abortion. Give them a little more credit than that.

]]> By: Ames http://acandidworld.com/2008/08/29/sarah-palin-false-promise-in-the-first-female-vp-nomination/#comment-5718 Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:55:03 +0000 http://www.acandidworld.net/?p=1770#comment-5718 Yeah, I phrased that ridiculously poorly. I assure you the intent was not to do what you accuse me of – I tried to disclaim that intent explicitly, but it was 1:30 in the morning and I obviously failed. I didn’t mean to imply anything personal, and for that I apologize but note my intent to avoid that implication :). I wasn’t tryign to convince her through you – I just legitimately want to know how Hillary women reconcile themselves to Palin’s theocratic background, one totally opposed to everything Hillary stands for. For the life of me I can’t understand it.

]]> By: Collin http://acandidworld.com/2008/08/29/sarah-palin-false-promise-in-the-first-female-vp-nomination/#comment-5711 Wed, 03 Sep 2008 05:10:04 +0000 http://www.acandidworld.net/?p=1770#comment-5711 The last sentence was supposed to read “She’s taking into account things that only she can understand.”

]]> By: Collin http://acandidworld.com/2008/08/29/sarah-palin-false-promise-in-the-first-female-vp-nomination/#comment-5710 Wed, 03 Sep 2008 05:07:23 +0000 http://www.acandidworld.net/?p=1770#comment-5710 How does your girlfriend feel about birth control pills, condoms, and abortions in the case of rape? . . . I make no implications with the latter about anything other than the relevance of those issues to most women.

LMAO. That was easily the most hideously awkward thing I’ve seen on this blog, Ames.

I put that bit about my gf in there to comment on whether a trend is perceptibly happening. Not to open a debate on the underlying merits. PC picked up on this distinction and responded in kind with some observations.

You took it as an opportunity to persuade someone you’ve never met, over the internet, through her obviously unsympathetic boyfriend. And in a way that directly implicates my own sexual practices. Amazing.

Please try to separate your own irrepressible opinion on the underlying merit of an issue from your discussion of it at a larger sociological level. Yes, ideally my gf would have had to listen to you before making her decision. But she didn’t go to Princeton for nothing. She’s taking into account things not even I can appreciate.

]]> By: Oneiroi http://acandidworld.com/2008/08/29/sarah-palin-false-promise-in-the-first-female-vp-nomination/#comment-5709 Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:19:22 +0000 http://www.acandidworld.net/?p=1770#comment-5709 I would also say that they are more liberal than Palin though…

http://www.gallup.com/poll/1576/Abortion.aspx

We’ll wait and see, but I’m hoping people won’t change their politics/beliefs for a vote on gender.

]]> By: Progressive Conservative http://acandidworld.com/2008/08/29/sarah-palin-false-promise-in-the-first-female-vp-nomination/#comment-5707 Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:48:01 +0000 http://www.acandidworld.net/?p=1770#comment-5707 Again anectdotally but I have heard from four different female family members who said they are now reconsidering their support of Obama. My wife said she also heard the same from several female friends last night.

There are a lot of women who are going to have a lot of trouble going in the voting booth and pulling the lever against a woman. It would be no different for blacks if the GOP was running someone of color.

The point is that with independents drifting over to the GOP, Obama really can’t afford to lose anyone else. Palin is going to peel off some women. No amount of Democrat spin can stop that completely.

Another thing to keep in mind Ames. I know you think abortion is a pivotal issue for women and Palin’s opposition will turnoff women, but polling data demonstrates that independent voters tend to be more conservative than Obama on abortion.

]]> By: Ames http://acandidworld.com/2008/08/29/sarah-palin-false-promise-in-the-first-female-vp-nomination/#comment-5714 Sun, 31 Aug 2008 05:33:22 +0000 http://www.acandidworld.net/?p=1770#comment-5714 Ah, and I REALLY would think that the essentialism point would resonate with women.

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