Very good! I hsve seen some of those. She came up with a real dilly in her letter/pseudo petition to Justice Roberts and AG Holder. It is “charismatic negligence”. I practiced law for 40 years and never ran into this phrase. I checked several law dictionaries and nada. On its face it makes no legal sense whatsoever. She is accusing Obama of committing this and setting forth this as one of the grounds for the Supreme Court removing him from office, which they do not have the power to do..

She is one scary broad. I am hoping someone finds some false statements in her immigration application so that her citizenship can be revoked and she can be deported back to the Rodina (Mother Russia).

Right on! I thinkl there is a method to her madness. Even a correspondence law school has to teach you a modicum of law. SHe had to know all her lawsuits would be shot down. She also had to know all this correspondence to Roberts and Holder will go nowhere. This is what she wants. SHe knows that if she were to go to trial, none of her “evidence” is admissable and she would in all likelyhood be fined and imprisoned for contempt. She is playing to her audience and trying to create a persecution aura with her cabal. The “true patriots” are being persecuted by the liberals, socialists, pro-choicers, homosexuals, and people of color. This is how most facist movements get started. Look at Nazisn, the Arian Nation, the KKK. The ultimate goal is a military putsch with some generalissimo becoming Il Duce for life.

I am fearful that the government is being too complacent about the growing Berg/Taitz/Donofrio/Farah effort to undermine the due process of law of the Constitution.

As to my legal experience; I am a retired lawyer with 40 years experience in corporations, taxation, employee benefit plans and private banking.

I was thinking of tinkerthinker when I made my comments.

We seem to be on the same page. Anyone born on US soil is a natural-born citizen; the parents’ nationality is irrelevant. This is the holding of US v Wonk Kim Ark. There are exceptions for children born here of foreigh diplomats, and children born of members of a foreign occupying military power; neither of which apply to the instant situation.

If you truly want to stay current and informed, read up on Islam and Slavery in Africa, and then come back to a discussion on racism in the US. The only ones throwing the race card around are Obama and his cabinet members.

The people of America are just now waking up to a nightmare of a scam that makes Bernie Madoff’s Ponzi scheme look like a girl scout selling cookies.

Part of why this is so very strange to me is that I have a hard time imagining that anyone really believes that the “natural born citizen” clause in the Constitution is meant to be actionable. And I certainly don’t believe that any significant number of people think it’s tremendously important in principle to keep out anyone who’s not, in some sense, a natural born citizen. If any of this matters, it’s because it reflects on Obama’s loyalty to the country. But the public has already examined Obama’s loyalties, and they’ve decided that he’s loyal enough to be President (by a pretty good margin, too).

Surely there was a much stronger case to be made that George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, John Quincy Adams, Andrew Jackson, and William Henry Harrison were not natural born citizens (there being no ambiguity at all in their cases – not one of them was born in the United States of America, and all of them were born as subjects of what was probably the US’ greatest enemy at the time of their election). Several served in militaries beholden to foreign countries, and George Washington was actually a brigadier general in the British Army at one point. Insisting on this strict credentialing process seems to force the conclusion that we didn’t have a real President until Van Buren in 1837 (and that about 20% of our Presidents have been illegitimate). And yet, oddly, none of the founders seemed to consider any of that a problem.

I bet you pulled that clip off some “Obama is not a natural born citizen” website.

I’m not saying that his views are valid and yours are not, just trying to see about that “spouting off on legal issues you don’t understand” comment, and seeing if it can be applied to you.

Let me know if I’m wrong. And let me know how you more knowledgeable than the majority of every other real lawyer and judge.

A different definition has never been ruled through the courts and Obama fits in fact everything the constitution says. And fits current law (link below). You commenters just don’t like him and want to kick him out on some produced technicality. And as it is with conpiracy theorists, everyone who disagrees with you is part of the conspiracy or is just wrong… so this will be of no use.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401—-000-.html

Current as of Jan. 3, 2007.

If even says someone who at least has one parent in the US even if they’re born elsewhere, is a citizen. Since Obama was born in the US, that would make him doubly a citizen. Making him uber naturalized.

Every notable/important/influential government official agrees. Why keep dragging this on?

Find a people affecting constitutional issue to fight for that actually affects people. As for amendments, I personally fight for the 4th, some people are fans of the 2nd though, especially conservatives.

In my opinion, that is fighting to “uphold the supreme law of the land”. Not finding some obscure line and interpreting it for your own reasons to get someone kicked out of office. But go ahead, call people names (ignorant) if they don’t agree with your random unfounded assertions.