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	<title>Comments on: Is Obama Following Through on His Promise to End Warrantless Wiretapping? Should He?</title>
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		<title>By: Improved Means For Achieving Deteriorated Ends / Legal Links</title>
		<link>http://acandidworld.com/2009/07/17/is-obama-following-through-on-his-promise-to-end-warrantless-wiretapping-should-he/#comment-12773</link>
		<dc:creator>Improved Means For Achieving Deteriorated Ends / Legal Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] however meager, between angry senators and increased news coverage. In addition, some hold a much more balanced view that promotes waiting and seeing. The NSA position was a major factor in my support of Obama though or at least the belief that he [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] however meager, between angry senators and increased news coverage. In addition, some hold a much more balanced view that promotes waiting and seeing. The NSA position was a major factor in my support of Obama though or at least the belief that he [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://acandidworld.com/2009/07/17/is-obama-following-through-on-his-promise-to-end-warrantless-wiretapping-should-he/#comment-12556</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the lifecycle costs are lower than using elderlies for tank fuel... but then, elderlies aren&#039;t good for anything and won&#039;t ever be good for anything other than biomass, while babies can be converted into useful people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the lifecycle costs are lower than using elderlies for tank fuel&#8230; but then, elderlies aren&#8217;t good for anything and won&#8217;t ever be good for anything other than biomass, while babies can be converted into useful people.</p>
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		<title>By: ACG</title>
		<link>http://acandidworld.com/2009/07/17/is-obama-following-through-on-his-promise-to-end-warrantless-wiretapping-should-he/#comment-12555</link>
		<dc:creator>ACG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention implied promises! (&quot;I promise not to use babies for tank fuel&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention implied promises! (&#8220;I promise not to use babies for tank fuel&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://acandidworld.com/2009/07/17/is-obama-following-through-on-his-promise-to-end-warrantless-wiretapping-should-he/#comment-12554</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By one count, and I forget if it was ACG here or Jeff over at &lt;a href=&quot;http://mnpublius.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MNPublius&lt;/a&gt; who I saw it from, it was well over 500 promises.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By one count, and I forget if it was ACG here or Jeff over at <a href="http://mnpublius.com/" rel="nofollow">MNPublius</a> who I saw it from, it was well over 500 promises.</p>
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		<title>By: bullwhacker</title>
		<link>http://acandidworld.com/2009/07/17/is-obama-following-through-on-his-promise-to-end-warrantless-wiretapping-should-he/#comment-12551</link>
		<dc:creator>bullwhacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ACG, things are biginning to make more sense. How old are you? I&#039;ll go first, 58.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACG, things are biginning to make more sense. How old are you? I&#8217;ll go first, 58.</p>
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		<title>By: ACG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ACG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll finish the sentence: &quot;is not Futurama.&quot; 

Seriously, that&#039;s bad news! I hope they get him! In the meantime, enjoy this hilarious clip of the man himself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V-xKq64aRY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll finish the sentence: &#8220;is not Futurama.&#8221; </p>
<p>Seriously, that&#8217;s bad news! I hope they get him! In the meantime, enjoy this hilarious clip of the man himself:</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://acandidworld.com/2009/07/17/is-obama-following-through-on-his-promise-to-end-warrantless-wiretapping-should-he/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/1V-xKq64aRY/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Gotchaye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gotchaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bad news, ACG - http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2009/07/futurama-new-voices.html?cnn=yes

They&#039;re still negotiating, hopefully, but Futurama with no Billy West?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad news, ACG &#8211; <a href="http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2009/07/futurama-new-voices.html?cnn=yes" rel="nofollow">http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2009/07/futurama-new-voices.html?cnn=yes</a></p>
<p>They&#8217;re still negotiating, hopefully, but Futurama with no Billy West?</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mainly because he made a LOT of promises during the campaign. Now comes the tasks of prioritization, finding workable compromise, ect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mainly because he made a LOT of promises during the campaign. Now comes the tasks of prioritization, finding workable compromise, ect.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do so many of the posts on Obama go something like this:

Obama promised to do (insert action here) before he got elected. He has yet to do it, so here are some extremely nuanced reasons why he probably hasn&#039;t done it, all of which absolve him from any real blame from the Left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do so many of the posts on Obama go something like this:</p>
<p>Obama promised to do (insert action here) before he got elected. He has yet to do it, so here are some extremely nuanced reasons why he probably hasn&#8217;t done it, all of which absolve him from any real blame from the Left.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip H</title>
		<link>http://acandidworld.com/2009/07/17/is-obama-following-through-on-his-promise-to-end-warrantless-wiretapping-should-he/#comment-12524</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ames,

You analysis of the why of the lawsuits teetering is one of the most concise I&#039;ve seen in a while, and I thank you for it.  Between you and Glenn Greenwald I may yet get a legal education from the Blog-o-sphere!

That said, I am still unable to come up with any scenario in which #3 is possible - nor have I ever been.  An aquaintence of mine, recently retired from the senior levels of the permanent White House staff, has told me on more then one occassion that under the old FISA statute, warrants were granted 98% of the time.  Show me any other arena where judges are involved and the petitioning party has that sort of success rate.

Now, if what he told me was true, then 1) we didn&#039;t need to &quot;revise&quot; FISA with the Patriot Act or any other statute, and 2) the TSP was illegal when it started.  Probably still is to anyone but John Yoo.  And that being the case, not shutting down TSP (which, FWIW needs a new acronym since the TSP is also the Thrift Savings Plan into which many federal employees contribute for retirement) means that the government is wiretapping for purposes that are less then savory, to say the least.

And it also means the door is still open for warrantless wiretapping of American citizens for domestic reasons.  That should scare you - it does scare me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ames,</p>
<p>You analysis of the why of the lawsuits teetering is one of the most concise I&#8217;ve seen in a while, and I thank you for it.  Between you and Glenn Greenwald I may yet get a legal education from the Blog-o-sphere!</p>
<p>That said, I am still unable to come up with any scenario in which #3 is possible &#8211; nor have I ever been.  An aquaintence of mine, recently retired from the senior levels of the permanent White House staff, has told me on more then one occassion that under the old FISA statute, warrants were granted 98% of the time.  Show me any other arena where judges are involved and the petitioning party has that sort of success rate.</p>
<p>Now, if what he told me was true, then 1) we didn&#8217;t need to &#8220;revise&#8221; FISA with the Patriot Act or any other statute, and 2) the TSP was illegal when it started.  Probably still is to anyone but John Yoo.  And that being the case, not shutting down TSP (which, FWIW needs a new acronym since the TSP is also the Thrift Savings Plan into which many federal employees contribute for retirement) means that the government is wiretapping for purposes that are less then savory, to say the least.</p>
<p>And it also means the door is still open for warrantless wiretapping of American citizens for domestic reasons.  That should scare you &#8211; it does scare me.</p>
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