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News Flash! After Aborting All U.S. Babies, Liberals Want to Force Old Geezers to Off Themselves

You know us crazy liberals: We’re not satisfied until we have coerced a million doe-eyed college co-eds into abortion clinics to wrench their babies from their wombs. Apparently, too, we aren’t satisfied until the federal government goes in and tricks grandma and grandpa into committing suicide so that we can save a few bucks on Medicare expenses.

We’ve seen shades of the former accusation on this site many-a-time, but the latter’s a new one. Courtesy of a Right-Wing-Nut comes this little gem to my personal e-mail (bold mine):

This is not to scare anyone but to inform you. This health care bill is the biggest defining legislation in our country’s history.  We all have to be informed on [sic] what is taking place in this health care take over. …

Here’s information on the health care [sic]:

“ON PAGE 425 OF OBAMA’S HEALTH CARE BILL, the Federal Government will require EVERYONE who is on Social Security to undergo a counseling session every 5 years with the objective being that they will explain to them just how to end their own life earlier. Yes…They are going to push SUICIDE to cut medicare spending!”

The GOP and the insurance industry are in full-frontal-assault-mode right now, working feverishly to stoke fear (in the name of “information”) with all levels of hysteria over impending health-care reform. Their catalysts of said fear: under-informed social conservatives (apologies for the unavoidable redundancy).

But like Karl Rove so cynically used wedge politics to spin the Christian Right into a frothy maelstrom of hate and fear that catapulted him and his powerful patrons to the highest levels of power, so too, is today’s GOP and their insurance-industry donors. Along with Bill Kristol, good ol’ Fred Thompson is in on the action allowing deliberate misinformation to enter the public debate. Click here to listen to Fred chat with Betsy McCaughey about the dread page 425 in the 1018-page proposed bill (H.R. 3200) that passed the House Committee on Education and Labor last Friday.

Here’s an excerpt of McCaughey’s hysteria (bold mine):

I am so shocked at the vicious assault on elderly people and the Boomer Generation in this bill. I hope that people listening will protect their parents from what is intended under this bill.

Whither the viciousness? Language in the bill that provides for standardization of Advance Health Care Directives (a.k.a. Living Wills, Health Care Proxies) that are currently recognized in all 50 states and the District of Columbia. These documents EMPOWER INDIVIDUALS, enabling them to set out what they expect in terms of health care should they be incapacitated or otherwise unable to speak for themselves in critical situations.

While, indeed, the bill requires practitioners (a physician, a nurse practitioner, or a physician’s assistant) to revisit the matter of an Advance Health Care Directive every five years with their patients age 65 and over (when directives are viewed as most important … Frankly, every person over the age of 18 should have one.) at NO POINT IN SECTION 1233 IS EUTHANASIA EXPLICITLY — OR IMPLICITLY — FAVORED. Again, Advance Health Care Directives are intended to provide clarity in emergency situations, and through that clarity, empower patients!!! A person can have a “do not resuscitate order” in his or her directive as easily as a person can state he or she wants to exhaust all levels of available care to sustain life. Click here for a sample directive from wacky, liberal California. Similarly, here is information from the Oklahoma Bar Association on directives in their state. They are remarkably similar. Seriously, read these links and see how much control an individual has over his or her life, even in times of crisis or incapacitation, by simply possessing an Advance Health Care Directive.

But even though directives are recognized as legal tools in every state, there is no standard protocol for practitioners to discuss this matter with their patients. Similarly, there is no standard language that guarantees a directive signed in New York, for instance, will be instantly recognized in another state. H.R. 3200, through section 1233, seeks to remedy the inconsistencies that exist. According to the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation (bold mine)

Although advance directive policies are determined primarily at the state level, in 1991, Congress enacted the Patient Self-Determination Act (PSDA). This act requires that all health care facilities receiving Medicare or Medicaid reimbursements must inform patients of their right to make choices about the treatment they receive and to prepare advance directives.

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Despite the PSDA’s requirement that health care providers tell patients about advance directives, surprisingly few Americans actually complete these documents. A study published in 2002 estimated the overall prevalence of advance directives to be 15 to 20 percent in the general population. Rates of completion are also low in the populations that most need them. A 2002 study of nursing home residents found that only 20 percent of them had living wills, and 48 percent had DNR [Do Not Resuscitate] orders.

Further, the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation graded states on how individual directive policies conformed with the aims of the Uniform Health Care Decisions Act, and only seven states received an “A”. Five states (AK, KS, PA, VT) received the lowest grade. California received only a “C” grade; Oklahoma, a “D”. What is wrong with educating people and encouraging them to take advantage of a tool that protects their interest, and what is wrong with seeking systemic consistency? Absolutely nothing.

So not only is the Right trying to fish a red herring in an attempt to turn health-care reform into a mandate to KILL, KILL, KILL “elderly people and the Boomer Generation,” they have fallaciously exploited settled law, relying on public ignorance, to craft the liberal agenda as just so much dehumanizing violence.

Educate yourself. Go get an Advance Health Care Directive of your own. Talk to your friends about it; share it with your family. And for the love of ethics, don’t buy for one nanosecond the fear-mongering vomiting from the mouths of the GOP, the insurance industry, and their pathetically ignorant lackey: the Christian Right.

For your convenience, below, in part, is the section (beginning page 425) the Right has its meta-panties  all in a bunch over:

SEC. 1233. ADVANCE CARE PLANNING CONSULTATION.

(a) MEDICARE.—

(1) IN GENERAL.—Section 1861 of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1395x) is amended—

….

(B) by adding at the end the following new subsection:

‘‘Advance Care Planning Consultation

‘‘(hhh)(1) Subject to paragraphs (3) and (4), the term ‘advance care planning consultation’ means a consultation between the individual and a practitioner described in paragraph (2) regarding advance care planning, if, subject to paragraph (3), the individual involved has

not had such a consultation within the last 5 years. Such consultation shall include the following:

‘‘(A) An explanation by the practitioner of advance care planning, including key questions and considerations, important steps, and suggested people to talk to.

‘‘(B) An explanation by the practitioner of advance directives, including living wills and durable powers of attorney, and their uses.

‘‘(C) An explanation by the practitioner of the role and responsibilities of a health care proxy.

‘‘(D) The provision by the practitioner of a list of national and State-specific resources to assist consumers and their families with advance care planning, including the national toll-free hotline, the advance care planning clearinghouses, and State legal service organizations (including those funded through the Older Americans Act of 1965).

‘‘(E) An explanation by the practitioner of the continuum of end-of-life services and supports available, including palliative care and hospice, and benefits for such services and supports that are available under this title.

‘‘(F)(i) Subject to clause (ii), an explanation of orders regarding life sustaining treatment or similar orders, which shall include—

‘‘(I) the reasons why the development of such an order is beneficial to the individual and the individual’s family and the reasons why such an order should be updated periodically as the health of the individual changes;

‘‘(II) the information needed for an individual or legal surrogate to make informed decisions regarding the completion of such an order; and

‘‘(III) the identification of resources that an individual may use to determine the requirements of the State in which such individual resides so that the treatment wishes of that individual will be carried out if the individual is unable to communicate those wishes, including requirements regarding the designation of a surrogate decision maker (also known as a health care proxy).

‘‘(ii) The Secretary shall limit the requirement for explanations under clause (i) to consultations furnished in a State—

‘‘(I) in which all legal barriers have been addressed for enabling orders for life sustaining treatment to constitute a set of medical orders respected across all care settings; and

‘‘(II) that has in effect a program for orders for life sustaining treatment described in clause (iii).

‘‘(iii) A program for orders for life sustaining treatment for a States described in this clause is a program that—

‘‘(I) ensures such orders are standardized and uniquely identifiable throughout the State;

‘‘(II) distributes or makes accessible such orders to physicians and other health professionals that (acting within the scope of the professional’s authority under State law) may sign orders for life sustaining treatment;

‘‘(III) provides training for health care professionals across the continuum of care about the goals and use of orders for life sustaining treatment; and

‘‘(IV) is guided by a coalition of stakeholders includes representatives from emergency medical services, emergency department physicians or nurses, state long-term care association, state medical association, state surveyors, agency responsible for senior services, state department of health, state hospital association, home health association, state bar association, and state hospice association.


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having worked in the healthcare industry for most of my career, advanced directives are of prime concern to everyone. it’s nothing new. i had mine drawn up with DNR,DNI,DNH a decade ago. I took my baby off life support, because continued life wasn’t an option.

to suggest that it’s “old people” being forced to commit “suicide” is ludicrous. advanced directives should be revisited as often as the people involved think is necessary.

if grandma is getting worse, then look at the options.

it’s a difficult situation for all involved unless specifically and legally laid out. you have family members who try to tell you that grandma changed her mind at the last minute, though you’re holding the paperwork in your hands. often times, we’ll just “fake” resuscitate to appease family members in cases like that and have them declared dead at the receiving facility.

it should be done for everyone as soon as they achieve “legal age”.

nobody likes death, but we all know it’s inevitability.

Comment by nancy

This is what my Rush-zombie friend was referring to! Wow, when I tell my dad that the papers he sent (including the Living Will and the DNR orders that he wrote, signed, and had notarized) enable me to euthanize him, I may have to call the hospital as he laughs to death.

Comment by ErikaF

erika, it’s not euthanasia…..it’s comfort care at the end of days.

personally, i would want to be euthanized given certain circumstances.

Comment by nancy

I know — that’s why I totally support the DNR orders! It just astounds me that dealing with the issue of terminal incapacitation is equated to euthanasia — as if deciding what to do with your own body and life is illegal.

Oh, wait, right — who am I talking about again?

Comment by ErikaF

it is such a difficult issue. sorry for misunderstanding you.

Comment by nancy

Welcome back Didionsmommy! Thank you for covering me :)

Comment by ACG

Say this like eliminating unproductive parasites that contribute nothing to the world and consume an inordinate amount of resources is a bad thing. The “problem” of Social Security insolvency, the “problem” of Medicare insolvency, the “problem” of rising health costs – they’re all results of artificially and improperly extending people’s lives beyond the point where everyone should have already died of natural causes. And they aren’t problems, they’re consequences of the proliferation of the elderly – which is a problem.

Frankly, I see no problem with imposing a mandatory retirement age – for retirement into a grave. 65, 70 years – and not an hour longer. Life’s not worth living anyway once you’re arthritic and senile, and a broken down geezer’s no use to anyone else either. We can keep doing what we’re doing now – waste resources on the old. We could leave the old to their own devices, to litter the ground with their disease-spreading carcasses. Or we could dispose of them cleanly, efficiently, and humanely.

Comment by Steve

Ahem. Steve & I go way back. But that position is insane, discounts the independent value of human life beyond a working commodity, and is not the position of this site or any of its writers.

Comment by ACG

Bravo!

Comment by bullwhacker

I do not actually advocate actively killing the elderly.

And yes, my mix of things I actually do believe (namely, that Medicare and Social Security do society more harm than good and AARP’s stranglehold on Washington is not in the long-term interests of the majority of people) with over-the-top parody (the answer is to shoot everyone on their 65th birthday) was a dismal failure.

And yes, I was discounting the main source of human life’s value – because ultimately this conversation’s about setting public policy regarding health care, and the main source of a human life’s value can’t, and I believe shouldn’t, be taken into account in considering public policy proposals. Public policy is about serving the needs of the many, and the only way a person positively impacts “the many” – that mass of millions of faceless strangers who will never meet us and never care about us as particular individuals – is as a “working commodity”. So our value as laborers and commodities is our only value relevant to public policy. It’s the only entry in the “benefit” column for analyzing whether or not we’re worth keeping alive.

Yes, the primary source of a human life’s value is the value assigned to that person’s life by their friends and family. Our lives are really worth the sum of how much the people who care about us care. Those who are well-liked and well-loved, their particular lives are worth something to a lot of people, and so their lives have more value than the lives of those who aren’t well-liked or well-loved – but it’s a value that by its nature is wholly subjective, limited in scope to the people who are doing the valuing, and non-transferrable. Important, dreadfully important – after all, it’s what makes our lives matter! But at the same time, meaningless in the greater scheme of things, because it’s based on specific relationships between particular individuals.

Am I making sense? My life’s real value is rooted in how much and whether my friends like me, but that’s private and personal and public policy can’t (how can the relative pros and cons of keeping me alive be evaluated in terms of who’d be sad if I die?) and shouldn’t (There are ~300,000,000 people in America. Being extremely liberal and assuming for the sake of argument there’s 3,000 people who personally know me (that number’s way high) and value my life… what does that matter compared to the other 299,997,000 people in America who don’t know me and to whom I’m 100% interchangeable with every other person they don’t know?). When it comes to making a decision like how to allocate resources, the only way to serve the needs of the many rather than the needs of the few is to evaluate people like worker ants or bees, not humans. Or to bastardize Stalin, when a friend dies it’s a tragedy, when a stranger dies it’s a statistic.

Now, that’s two types of value… neither of which is independent. So what were you talking about?

Comment by Steve

So I guess that, say, instead of enjoying another 20 years of productive and inspiring semi-retirement, Walter Cronkite should have been “retired” back in ‘91? Charming.

Comment by Lanfranc

Steve, When you get to be 70 and are still vital and lively will you shuffle off this mortal coil willingly?

Comment by Blue Dog

o.k. … i want to remind everyone what the post is about in a quick summary:

1. GOP/conservatives/insurance industry are virulently opposed to health care reform.

2. said reform opponents have a long track record of fomenting fear, suspicion, etc. among GOP base (christian right) which mobilizes to sway public opinion.

3. this is happening right now with a few well-placed operatives railing against language in the house bill that seeks to standardize and formalize advance health care directive protocols.

4. advance health care directives have been around for nearly 20 years. they offer individuals and opportunity to “own” decisions regarding their care should they somehow be incapacitated.

5. the christian right often equates advance health care directives with euthanasia. period. (even though a directive can very well say “keep me on life support forever.”)

6. to the right-wing-nuts, any language in the bill regarding the directives HAS TO MEAN the government wants to people to commit suicide as part of some larger totalitarian-rule.

7. this is bullshit because the directives do nothing EXCEPT PROTECT INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM and the language in the house bill seeks to expand use of the directives.

8. if anything the language in the bill DIMINISHES GOVERNMENT’S ROLE in end-of-life care … if everyone had a directive, then no one would have to become part of an embarrassing and painful court proceeding … terry schiavo, anyone?

Comment by didionsmommy

I have just read the text of HR 3200 Section 1233 and if anyone here doesn’t think the gov’t won’t use this to encourage people to welcome their demise before their time I have a bridge in Brooklynn I’d like to sell to you.

Comment by Blue Dog

Well then you owe me a bridge, or at least a explanation of WHERE precisely in that language there is ANYTHING that could be construed to mean “The government gets to decide when you die”. Please remember to show your work and provide examples.

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