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	<title>Comments on: Objection! Republican Talking Points &amp; Prior Inconsistent Statements</title>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://acandidworld.com/2009/08/12/objection-republican-talking-points-prior-inconsistent-statements/#comment-13667</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s a fair comparison for the simple fact that they make me equally nauseated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a fair comparison for the simple fact that they make me equally nauseated.</p>
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		<title>By: linusbern</title>
		<link>http://acandidworld.com/2009/08/12/objection-republican-talking-points-prior-inconsistent-statements/#comment-13663</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[linusbern]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not to inject myself into your private chat, but I find this notion of equating Olberman and Limbaugh to be absurd and utterly dishonest.  The only similarities are that they express outrage, have egos, and have a definite political slant.  Beyond that, Limbaugh will lie and invent and distort and slander and insult with no sense of shame whatsoever.  You could not realistically make that statement about Olberman.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to inject myself into your private chat, but I find this notion of equating Olberman and Limbaugh to be absurd and utterly dishonest.  The only similarities are that they express outrage, have egos, and have a definite political slant.  Beyond that, Limbaugh will lie and invent and distort and slander and insult with no sense of shame whatsoever.  You could not realistically make that statement about Olberman.</p>
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		<title>By: Igor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Igor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As someone who actually lived under a communist government, albeit at an early age and a government in death throes, I find this political squabble both amusing and disturbing.Indisputably, both sides have crazies who engage in this kind of counterproductive and hypocritical finger pointing. The difference, as set forth by Kris above, is that much of liberal crazy along with legitimate concerns, stemmed from specific actions by the Bush administration as opposed to the perceived threat. That some of the actions of said administration were twisted in light of surrounding events by some crazy groups (read 911 Truthers) is a different issue. 

I also tend to agree with Ames that the conservative fringe element is much more mainstream, although my evidence for it is purely anecdotal.  My social circle inevitably includes people of various political persuasions (which makes for very interesting birthday parties), most of which are highly educated, some Ivy, etc. Fringe views, such as &quot;death panels, socialism, Obamanazi, have been expressed by those highly educated people of conservative persuasion, whereas &quot;Bush/GOP = bad&quot; is the worst I hear from my liberal educated friends.  

I grew out of my libertarian stage sometime ago, and continue to recoil in horror at a thought that maybe libertarians were right all along and Dems/Republicans got it all wrong.   Of course, at this point my political views are much more complex to be able to clearly identify with any single party.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who actually lived under a communist government, albeit at an early age and a government in death throes, I find this political squabble both amusing and disturbing.Indisputably, both sides have crazies who engage in this kind of counterproductive and hypocritical finger pointing. The difference, as set forth by Kris above, is that much of liberal crazy along with legitimate concerns, stemmed from specific actions by the Bush administration as opposed to the perceived threat. That some of the actions of said administration were twisted in light of surrounding events by some crazy groups (read 911 Truthers) is a different issue. </p>
<p>I also tend to agree with Ames that the conservative fringe element is much more mainstream, although my evidence for it is purely anecdotal.  My social circle inevitably includes people of various political persuasions (which makes for very interesting birthday parties), most of which are highly educated, some Ivy, etc. Fringe views, such as &#8220;death panels, socialism, Obamanazi, have been expressed by those highly educated people of conservative persuasion, whereas &#8220;Bush/GOP = bad&#8221; is the worst I hear from my liberal educated friends.  </p>
<p>I grew out of my libertarian stage sometime ago, and continue to recoil in horror at a thought that maybe libertarians were right all along and Dems/Republicans got it all wrong.   Of course, at this point my political views are much more complex to be able to clearly identify with any single party.</p>
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		<title>By: nancy</title>
		<link>http://acandidworld.com/2009/08/12/objection-republican-talking-points-prior-inconsistent-statements/#comment-13655</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ACG, maybe we can mesh our scenarios together and make millions in hollywood!!  I wrote this on another site where the bloggers are equally bat shit insane:

maybe, just maybe, gore in cahoots with obama sent those girls(Ling and Lee) over to North Korea, told them to cross the border and get caught by NK.  

then, after a few months of pretend hand wringing, secret talks with lil kim begin, suggesting he request clinton to come to NK. in exchange, we&#039;ll lighten up on the nukes. clinton, in cahoots now with gore and obama and lil kim, enlists the aid of steven bing so as to use his jet. { conveniently picking him, because his dad worked in public health in the LBJ administration (so far removed, who&#039;d ever think that up!!)} 

 clinton goes to get the girls, who have secretly been living in the lap of luxury in NK, brings them home and in the end everyone is happy because obama gets his healthcare passed!!!

the crazies there actually thought i was serious!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACG, maybe we can mesh our scenarios together and make millions in hollywood!!  I wrote this on another site where the bloggers are equally bat shit insane:</p>
<p>maybe, just maybe, gore in cahoots with obama sent those girls(Ling and Lee) over to North Korea, told them to cross the border and get caught by NK.  </p>
<p>then, after a few months of pretend hand wringing, secret talks with lil kim begin, suggesting he request clinton to come to NK. in exchange, we&#8217;ll lighten up on the nukes. clinton, in cahoots now with gore and obama and lil kim, enlists the aid of steven bing so as to use his jet. { conveniently picking him, because his dad worked in public health in the LBJ administration (so far removed, who&#8217;d ever think that up!!)} </p>
<p> clinton goes to get the girls, who have secretly been living in the lap of luxury in NK, brings them home and in the end everyone is happy because obama gets his healthcare passed!!!</p>
<p>the crazies there actually thought i was serious!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ACG</title>
		<link>http://acandidworld.com/2009/08/12/objection-republican-talking-points-prior-inconsistent-statements/#comment-13652</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ACG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well said Kris. I&#039;ve enjoyed this private little war, to be rejoined at a later date, after I get off a plane :-)

new contest: most star trek episode titles worked into one comment wins a pony]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Kris. I&#8217;ve enjoyed this private little war, to be rejoined at a later date, after I get off a plane :-)</p>
<p>new contest: most star trek episode titles worked into one comment wins a pony</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It kinda comes down to this:

Democrats were saying, &quot;Bush &lt;b&gt;IS&lt;/b&gt; doing X and Y, which are unconstitutional/illegal, and he won&#039;t even respond to internal investigations. Maybe impeachment proceedings are &lt;i&gt;necessary&lt;/i&gt;.&quot;

Republicans are saying, &quot;Obama wants health care reform, and that makes him an evil person, unfit to be president. Also, socialism is essentially un-American.&quot;

And think about it this way: the Republican mob is freaking out about health care - something that yes, might cost them more, but is being done to &lt;i&gt;help people, Americans&lt;/i&gt;. They believe the issue is worth becoming unruly and actually threatening people. How does this make sense? The response is absolutely disproportionate. I do not agree with that assessment of Democratic outrage during Bush&#039;s tenure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It kinda comes down to this:</p>
<p>Democrats were saying, &#8220;Bush <b>IS</b> doing X and Y, which are unconstitutional/illegal, and he won&#8217;t even respond to internal investigations. Maybe impeachment proceedings are <i>necessary</i>.&#8221;</p>
<p>Republicans are saying, &#8220;Obama wants health care reform, and that makes him an evil person, unfit to be president. Also, socialism is essentially un-American.&#8221;</p>
<p>And think about it this way: the Republican mob is freaking out about health care &#8211; something that yes, might cost them more, but is being done to <i>help people, Americans</i>. They believe the issue is worth becoming unruly and actually threatening people. How does this make sense? The response is absolutely disproportionate. I do not agree with that assessment of Democratic outrage during Bush&#8217;s tenure.</p>
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		<title>By: ACG</title>
		<link>http://acandidworld.com/2009/08/12/objection-republican-talking-points-prior-inconsistent-statements/#comment-13649</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ACG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[Like!]

Oh, this isn&#039;t Facebook...]]></description>
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<p>Oh, this isn&#8217;t Facebook&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ACG</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ACG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Disagree. Liberals have our talk radio in the Daily Show, etc., and they&#039;ve &lt;i&gt;always&lt;/i&gt; been left of center, yes, by a long shot, but no where near as extreme and bat shit insane as Limbaugh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disagree. Liberals have our talk radio in the Daily Show, etc., and they&#8217;ve <i>always</i> been left of center, yes, by a long shot, but no where near as extreme and bat shit insane as Limbaugh.</p>
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		<title>By: ACG</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ACG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No. The poll numbers as in an actual representation of the populace were against social security reform. The poll numbers as in an actual representation etc. are for but questioning health care reform. Apples &amp; oranges.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. The poll numbers as in an actual representation of the populace were against social security reform. The poll numbers as in an actual representation etc. are for but questioning health care reform. Apples &amp; oranges.</p>
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		<title>By: oneiroi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[oneiroi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a big hypothetical Mike.

I worry that we have so much media that normalizes some of this behavior that&#039;s not really there for the left.

Say what you want about Olberman, he doesn&#039;t have nearly the clout or ratings that many of the people on Fox have. 

And the style of news that traditionally has been vilified by conservatives as the liberal media, doesn&#039;t have call to action to it&#039;s viewers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a big hypothetical Mike.</p>
<p>I worry that we have so much media that normalizes some of this behavior that&#8217;s not really there for the left.</p>
<p>Say what you want about Olberman, he doesn&#8217;t have nearly the clout or ratings that many of the people on Fox have. </p>
<p>And the style of news that traditionally has been vilified by conservatives as the liberal media, doesn&#8217;t have call to action to it&#8217;s viewers.</p>
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